If I'm crazy enough to try to kill people for no reason at all, and if I don't expect anyone to be shooting back, is there a reason for me to have second thoughts because all I've got is a Glock with a 10 round magazine? They drill regularly, and can apparently hit what they're aiming at. I think that you realize that the first phrase of the statement is, "A well regulated militia..." But because it is inconvenient to the ideology and emotional need of owing guns you pretend that it is irrelevant. Maybe you're drunk. The Constitution is a set of definable guidelines, not a suicide pact. Typewriters did not exist when the Constitution was written. SAN FRANCISCO (Reuters) - A California state appeals court on Wednesday struck down a ban on the private ownership of handguns in San Francisco, one of … The Constitution has been modified with an Amendment and then modified again to revoke that Amendment. Well, here's a problem. As we have said, the Act does not outlaw all semiautomatic firearms and magazines. But will you accept personal responsibility when people who are not idiots acquire guns and use them to kill others? Look at the attack of a synagogue today. That would include a variety of regulations to prevent the many accidental deaths due to fire arms. Here, we find that even if the Act implicates the core of the Second Amendment right, it (at most) minimally burdens that right. There could be a valid argument in the rest of the post (e.g. The Massachusetts assault weapons ban mirrors the federal ban Congress allowed to expire in 2004. In other words, "A well regulated Militia....". If I have no valid reason to suspect other people of having criminal intent, I will not accept responsibility for my interactions with those people. If you don't the Constitution then, oh well, it is what we are stuck with. Virginia Tech was attacked by one man with one handgun and 50 rounds of ammo he bought that morning. As a person considered for one of the highest positions of the land his character is what was examined in the hearing. I'm from Philadelphia. The Massachusetts Supreme Court Tuesday overturned the state’s ban on private ownership of stun guns, ruling they are protected under the Second Amendment’s right to bear arms. If that is the case, is there a compelling reason for the state to apply regulations to certain weapons? The attempt at analogy by tying Freedom of Speech to typewriters fails. In the wake of increasingly frequent acts of mass violence committed with semiautomatic assault weapons and LCMs, the interests of state and local governments in regulating the possession and use of such weapons are entitled to great weight. Not sure about any other kind of semiautomatic rifle. 2)This ain't "well-regulated" by any definition. If you want to debate the first phrase then hop on a time machine and go back a couple of hundred years. Gun Review: Going the Distance with the Kimber Rapide Black Ice 10mm. Politics in the U.S. changed. That's infringement. Guns may "propel a small projectile at a high speed" but I'd probably get arrested trying to play marbles with one. A gun can be easily equipped with electronics that prevent shooting it. The 2nd Amendment was put into the Constitution for the purpose of assuring that citizens could arm themselves for the purpose of protection from invaders. The U.S Supreme Court Monday wiped out a Massachusetts court ruling that had upheld the conviction of a Massachusetts woman who carried a stun … I’ve always heard great things about old Colt revolvers, and let’s just say this gun made me think twice about my stance on revolvers. Today the Supreme Court ruled that Chicago's handgun ban violates the right to keep and bear arms. Just as Trump is belligerent in order hide his crimes I believe Kavanaugh chose belligerence (helped by some liquid courage) to shut down the Kabuki play of a hearing. By the way, how do you define idiot? If unregulated ownership of guns was a natural right then that would have been included in the 1st Amendment. The answer to this question depends on whether the fit between those interests and the Act is reasonable. Cars and trucks exist primarily for the purpose of transportation. In Massachusetts in particular, Collins' bill would lift the state ban on many types of assault weapons and large-capacity gun magazines. It's up to all of us and what we're willing accept as to the point of our guidelines. Yet Healey specifically said it's legal in her enforcement notice. I will not accept responsibilities for other people's misbehavior. ...Couldn't agree with you more. You have the right to self defense and to property by virtue of sucking down oxygen, not because those rights are enumerated in a list somewhere. A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed. They are written down. That's the point. And for all of the non-gun owners on here. He violated the spirit of the Constitution. We can argue that the Commonwealth government has the right to protect its citizens when the federal government abandons protection of the citizenry. You probably know as well as I do how hard it can be to shoot a moving target (or even someone at close range) with a handgun. If the Amendment was to declare that owning guns is a right then it would have been written and ratified with those words. Judge Benitez in California specifically overturned California's magazine capacity limits citing specifically their use in home defense scenarios. Or do you have information indicating that he hosted a rape party? BOSTON — The Massachusetts Supreme Court on Tuesday overturned the state’s ban on private ownership of stun guns, ruling they are protected under the Second Amendment’s right to bear arms. And restrictions placed on government from infringing on your rights apply to all governments subordinate to the Constitution. However, no one said that Kavanaugh was hosting rape parties.He was accused of sexual assault. Interestingly, in Virginia you need a special kind of license of possess a scary black rifle. The Supreme Judicial Court on Tuesday found the state’s total ban on civilian possession of a stun gun violates the Second Amendment. Both are devices that ostensibly serve purposes. MA) *required* the militia to own serviceable military weapons and ammunition, and to present themselves at regular intervals for training. If you choose to direct any of these tools to the task of harming your fellow man, then you are thr one who has committed an offense. Each word was weighed in the conflict between a north that was becoming industrial and south that was fundamentally agrarian. But because these features-based bans are ridiculously easy to circumvent, the state’s Democratic Attorney General has now decreed, apparently by fiat, that there will now effectively be a ban on most semi-automatic long guns in the state. In other words just as cars can be regulated so can guns. That may not have been their reasoning in writing, but I'm guessing that is what they are getting at. Where law is concerned it matters to be precise. That could meet society's acceptable definition of keeping and bearing arms. Massachusetts must allow gun shops to reopen amid the coronavirus pandemic after the businesses were previously designated as non-essential by Gov. At issue was Healey's determination that the law let her extend the ban to weapons that were not explicitly mentioned in a state list of forbidden weapons but which her office had determined were basically copies of weapons on the list. isn't always the wrong way to hold a firearm. Most crimes and homicides are committed with pistols. Charlie Baker, a … The court contrasted such heavy weaponry with lightweight stun guns, which Massachusetts also tried to ban but which the Supreme Court said were allowed by the Second Amendment. The Cato Institute recently filed an amicus brief in support of a U.S. Supreme Court petition against an unconstitutional Massachusetts firearms ban. Some states includes a direct expression of that idea. This is where I like Mass gun laws. Conflating anything that can kill a person with an object designed to kill is disengenuous. Look. In my opinion he violated the Constitution. To secure enough votes in 1994, the ban's sponsors in Congress accepted a "sunset provision" — meaning it would last 10 years but need to be reauthorized. Read the Declaration. By the way, ending your statement with an ad hominem attack doesn't enhance your credibility. While the Justices held that, in Caetano’s case, “‘the Second Amendment extends, prima facie, to all instruments that constitute bearable arms, even those that were not in existence at the time of the founding,” Massachusetts has not acted to repeal their prohibition on stun guns and tasers. BOSTON — The Massachusetts Supreme Court Tuesday overturned the state’s ban on private ownership of stun guns, ruling they are protected under the Second Amendment’s right to bear arms. And the supremacy clause. They fail because knives, fire, etc. Just like more people would have died had he had a Mini-14, or a few extra 10-round mags for his pistol. Or a gay bar a few years ago. Do you mean Jewish ghettos of black ghettos? But that would include mandatory training with a certification. The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. Otherwise playing games with words just creates lies. Swiss cheese has fewer holes than this decision. Guns are a means of self-defense; simply owning them was never considered a right. In other words when organized as a militia. ANY firearm can be used to commit mass murder. With lawmakers in Massachusetts now under a ticking clock to recast the Commonwealth’s electronic weapon laws, Senate President Harriette Chandler and House Speaker Robert DeLeo are both reportedly working on legislative fixes. 3. Now you could argue guns can be used for purposes other than to maim, e.g. CCI Clean Offers a Mess Free Solution in .22 LR. BOSTON — The state's highest court has tossed out Massachusetts' ban on stun guns, ruling that the weapons are protected under the Second Amendment. Now people will just go buy the same rifle with a fixed max, in the exact same capacity (10) until Healy decides she doesn't like that, and changes the rules yet again. Today that might also include electronics that make use of a weapon dependent on entering a passcode. Yup. If you like what we're up to and want to help out, please consider a (completely non-deductible) contribution. Your rights are not circumscribed by the 1st Amendment or the 2nd or any of them. Handguns vs. AR-15, Roman. There is a category of objects called burglarious tools. A gun-rights group in San Diego sued Thursday to block California from enforcing its assault weapons ban, citing an earlier court victory that overturned the state’s ban … BOSTON — The Massachusetts Supreme Court on Tuesday overturned the state’s ban on private ownership of stun guns, ruling they are protected under the Second Amendment’s right to bear arms. People think nothing of trying to settle arguments with violence And it means including the original meaning of those rules, not the fad interpretation of the moment. Ghetto marksmanship? Assault rifles will be banned. Each human being shifts between good and bad. It's not up to you, or me. 1. My point: don't ban the guns. The AR15 is not more powerful than other allowed rifles, More deaths in San Diego thanks to the plague of guns. McConnell prevented the lawful nomination and consideration to the Supreme Court. Viewed as a whole, the record suggests that wielding the proscribed weapons for self-defense within the home is tantamount to using a sledgehammer to crack open the shell of a peanut. They might be easy to overcome but at least they can prevent accidental maiming and deaths when children get hold a gun. Ban idiots from getting guns. Further, if the writers of the national Constitution wanted to express the idea that individuals have a right to owning guns, without qualification, they would have done so. Among natural rights there is a right of self-defense. Or a Mini-14 that shoots the same bullet out of the same barrel as an AR, but is a little slower to reload? And the 14th Amendment. While some people may have opinions on why the M1911 isn’t an ideal carry choice, I’m going to explain why this is the best option for me. It is accepted that self-defense is a right. Kavanaugh showed up to his most important hearing drunk. The decision cleared up the uncertainty left in the wake of District of Columbia … By Ilya Shapiro and James Knight. The reference to Freedom of Speech as also a direct statement. This is the kind of weaseling by courts that one saw in Jim Crow states to curb the Civil Rights of minorities up through the 1960s. The 10-year ban was passed by the US Congress on September 13, 1994, following a close 52–48 vote in the US Senate, and was signed into law by US President Bill Clinton on the same day. For the purpose of firearms licensing, the Massachusetts standard is a pretty good one: have two law-abiding citizens vouch for your good character, have no history of violent or threatening behavior, and demonstrate proficiency at safe handling and marksmanship. High-velocity weapons like the AR-15 does much, much more damage. But the national Constitution clearly and specifically makes ownership of guns subordinate to a "well regulated Militia.". In … Gasoline etc can run camping stoves, cars, or rockets. Greater restrictions will be placed upon gun ownership. Here, the Massachusetts legislature's conclusion that the Commonwealth's legitimate interests are best served by proscribing semiautomatic assault weapons and LCMs rests on substantial (although not incontrovertible) evidence regarding the inordinate dangers associated with the proscribed weapons. LeMay ran for Vice-President as George Wallace's running mate. It's still a fool's errand. The words are there. The founders wanted the American people to have that power as a check on foreign aggression and domestic tyranny. Does it make it harder? Zebras make great guard pets, The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. And if we define arms in the context of militia, nukes aren't arms. In the 22-page ruling in Ramirez v. Commonwealth, Chief Justice Ralph Gants said the high court “reluctantly” came to the conclusion that Massachusetts’s blanket prohibition on electronic weapons couldn’t be saved as it Showing up drunk and acting with hostility and belligerence would get any judge slapped down if the Senate committee as a whole was voting on the basis of who is a good judge, not on the basis of what Mitch McConnell commanded his servants to vote. Trouble is you don't seem to agree with yourself... As I've stated before, I'm all for universal mandatory firearms training. The sort of order that comes from regular practice at arms, individually, and corporately, as citizens did at the time. Or maybe you're not. Since then, a flood of lawsuits and pre-litigation letters has seen bans on the devices scrapped in Baltimore, New Jersey, New Orleans, Tacoma, Washington, D.C. and other cities. We founding fathers hate guns so very much and think they should all be thrown into some nerd pit forever like the Sarlac Pit or the Mordor volcano or something and everyone should have a picture of Don Knotts as Barney Fife in their house to remember how foolish gun possesion is, The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. The appeals court concluded that in the Heller decision, the Supreme Court made personal self defense, especially in the home, one of its lodestones for determining whether a weapon was valid under the Second Amendment. An appeals court Friday upheld a decision to throw out a legal challenge to Repeat illegal gun offenders and illegal pistols are the real issue, not "assault weapons'. At the time of the writing of the Constitution, that meant, with some fiddling around the upper and lower bounds, all males between 16 and 60, Quakers and clergy excepted. The M1 fires a bigger bullet through a longer barrel. Ramirez, a passenger in the vehicle, was found to have a stun gun in his pants pocket, which lead in part to his arrest and a charge for violating the Commonwealth’s electrical weapon laws. The ruling we're discussing here ignores that argument (not sure which of the plaintiffs these are, and which arguments they made as there a couple of suits over this working their way through the courts), and says AR15 bad because lethality. Read it again. If you like him then please say so. If you expand the scope to beyond Massachusetts, you probably would find more instances of AR15s being used for self defense and home defense. Again...for the sake of the rule of law...this shouldn't age well. (Talking about the design of nail guns or circular saws or other tools that can maim you might be interesting but probably really off-topic). You may not like them, or disagree with them about politics, but it doesn't mean they aren't well-regulated. If you have a right to self defense but not the right to implements useful for self defense, you have no rights. Society has defined it as not being infringement in the same way that owning a fully automatic weapon isn't infringement. A plague of gun abuse cancels out life. Right now, zero private citizens who "apply for a permit for a new AR-15" in Massachusetts can get one. This case concerns an issue of paramount importance. Just as Trump, McConnell and Scalia are or were temporary intrusions of moral disease into the body politic so is the addiction to guns. If this reasoning were backed by sound numbers, I might be more willing to concede the point that some people shouldn't have some guns. While one or two examples where a weapon of mass destruction may have stopped a robbery, those few examples pale in comparison to the mass murders caused by high powered death devices. As for electronic locks...that's science fiction. 1)"a bunch of nobodies with AK-47s" only tied down the world's only superpower because said superpower didn't want to win the war on the terms that it was winnable. Even so, we recognize that such interests must be balanced against the time-honored right of individuals to bear arms in self-defense — a right that is protected in varying degrees by the Second Amendment. We spent six months and turned the corner of the recommend break-in round count on the striking Kimber Rapide Black Ice in 10mm Auto and have some things to report. Hard to get around the obvious I realize. If you have a right to peaceable assembly but any assembly is ruled unpeaceacle since it has a small probability of breaking out into a riot, you have no right. 1) And yet, here are three real-life examples not drawn from a Heinlein novel, two in living memory. The writers of the Constitution weighed each word. The actual standard in the law is the configuration of the weapon, not what parts it has in common with what. Since Massachusetts indubitably "has compelling governmental interests in both public safety and crime prevention," id., the only question that remains is whether the Act is substantially related to those interests. I suppose we could have gone all Swallwell on Vietnam and Afghan. Safety and protection will truly be put ahead of the pleasure and lust for owning devices that exist only to kill. So while he could have just walked into a store and bought a pistol, he would have had more hoops to jump through to obtain an AR15. Cf. 2. Healey decided that anything with any part interchangeable with any AR-15 is illegal, but the Mini-14 isn't illegal. Anyone who likes Trump is either evil a fool or evil themself. You can't hug your children with nuclear arms. 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